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[edit]Hi there, I just knew you deleted the file of "File:Examples Game Map.jpg" so I went back to the rules and I consider that you made the right choice because of this picture is made by an AI as you can see so it's does met the rules so thank you for helping me deleted it and I'll be watch out again next time. Best. James27742 (talk) 10:05, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
Fictional Philippine Ships
[edit]Is there a guideline on Commons against the posting of images that were generated by artificial intelligence, or was their deletion a matter of common sense? I am just wondering. Also, did you find the sandbox on ENWP because you first saw it on Commons? Robert McClenon (talk) 00:56, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
- To address your questions in order:
- There isn't yet any general guideline against AI-generated images, but there are very few situations where they are likely to have any educational use. A line of ships that the uploader made up is clearly not one of those situations. (There is, however, the proposed guideline COM:AIIP which - once approved - will forbid uploading most AI-generated images of people.)
- I did indeed find the enwiki sandbox from the Commons uploads. I routinely survey Commons uploads which are likely to be AI-generated and nominate unused and/or inappropriate AI-generated images for deletion, and those images showed up on one such survey.
- Omphalographer (talk) 01:09, 11 January 2026 (UTC)
Glamtools
[edit]In case you didn't know about it yet, you can find usage with glamtools more easily. - Alexis Jazz ping plz 05:31, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
- I use VFC for mass nominations. It has a feature to spot in-use files, but I must have overlooked its warning for this file. Omphalographer (talk) 06:09, 31 January 2026 (UTC)
Question
[edit]What is the category for user created paintings that are not on there user pages? Krok6kola (talk) 18:21, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not aware of any specific, single category for that. If there's multiple paintings and they're in scope then we might have a "Paintings by SomeCommonsUser" category. Omphalographer (talk) 18:42, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
Commons delete
[edit]@Omphalographer Hi there. Please look at Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_uploaded_by_Harold_Foppele#Separate_files. It might be simpler. Thanks Harold Foppele (talk) 17:12, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
Copy of message "Response to the speedy deletion request filed by Omphalographer on February 8, 2026" left on the discussion page of the image "Disc dur - Esquèma generau.png"
[edit]Hello, the two images are similar because, in both cases, they depict a hard disk viewed from approximately the same angle, with the read head positioned on the disk. However, this is not a derivative work of the image mentioned by Omphalographer. Three arguments support this point:
- I took a photograph of a 2TB 2.5" Toshiba hard drive. I no longer have the model shown in the photo, but I found another hard drive of this type on E-bay ("Toshiba 2TB 2.5" Internal HDD Hard Disk Drive 9.5mm SATA 6GB 128MB Cache PS4 PC" [1]). The product specifications indicate a production date of January 26, 2020 (in the photo showing the label affixed to the back of the product), which is hardly compatible with an imitation of a 2008 diagram.
- the version of the disk shown in the allegedly copied image and in the contested image is not exactly the same. A difference can be seen at the level of the drive spindle. Some differences can also be observed in the upper part: straight lines in the contested image, and a series of small dots in the allegedly copied image.
- the allegedly copied image and the contested image do not share the same shadow patterns. This is explained by the fact that the contested image is the result of a photograph I took. I had to deal with shadowed areas, an issue that does not arise in the allegedly copied image, which is a diagram.
In my view, the image allegedly copied is a generic “Winchester” hard drive diagram, not an actual model. Consequently, in accordance with the “Contestation” section, I will withdraw the request for speedy deletion, but I remain open to any discussion should further clarification be needed. Best regards, --Nicolas Eynaud (talk) 08:26, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm not sure I believe that explanation, particularly given that the drive in the illustration is neither 2.5" nor SATA. I've opened a deletion request at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Disc dur - Esquèma generau.png. Omphalographer (talk) 20:32, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
Appeal regarding "The Quiet Engine" files
[edit]I am formally appealing the "Out of scope" designation for the files related to The Quiet Engine. While these are associated with a creative work, they serve a primary educational and philosophical purpose by illustrating complex concepts of Systems Theory and Urban Sociology.
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The main perpose of the public this creataion in this wiki is mainly to share this knowloaged to others. The creation is free and anyone take anything form it. I request that these files be retained based on the following specific merits: 1.Conceptual Illustration of Systems Theory: The files document the "Lattice," a systemic model where "every motion echoes" and "every step is recorded". This serves as a visual and textual allegory for how minor nodes in a system anchor a larger social structure. 2.Study of Bureaucratic Architecture: The work provides a detailed look at "Garrens Marginal Affairs," a study of how administrative offices "nudge small actions into neat columns" and how systems use "bureaucratic patience" to maintain equilibrium. 3.Allegory of Urban Sociology: The city is described as a study of "architecture [that] could disguise curiosity" and explores how urban layouts dictate the "intention" of its citizens. 4.Mechanical Philosophy: "The Quiet Engine" represents a mechanism of "clockwork, pressure plates, and unseen connections" used to resolve social consequences and maintain equilibrium. 5.Proposed Resolution: I am happy to move these files to educational categories such as Category:Sociological allegories or Category:Systems theory illustrations. I argue that the images, in particular, serve as standalone diagrams of "calculated, necessary chaos" and "stable nodes" within a theoretical system. Thank you for your time and for maintaining the integrity of the Commons. Devon93 (talk) 04:19, 11 February 2026 (UTC) Formal Defense of Educational Merit (COM:EDUCATIONAL) Intellectual value is not always immediately obvious. Just because a pattern is complex or presented through allegory does not mean it lacks educational merit. I ask that you respect this creation as a serious conceptual artifact. In the spirit of the Commons, which seeks to preserve the diverse ways we visualize knowledge, these files should be retained as a unique resource for studying the intersection of architectural influence and systemic control. 1. Contextual Framework: Social Physics and the "Lattice" The files in question represent a multimedia study of Social Physics, a field pioneered by Auguste Comte and recently modernized by researchers like Alex Pentland at MIT. The "Lattice" described in The Quiet Engine (Page 3, "The ledger exists beneath every step") is a direct visual and narrative allegory for Stochastic Modeling—the mathematical study of how individual "nodes" (people) create predictable patterns in a large-scale system. 2. Psychological Precedent: The Panopticon and Administrative Oversight The "Marginal Affairs" office and the "Ledger" (Page 16) function as a narrative exploration of Jeremy Bentham’s Panopticon. This is a real-world psychological concept used in sociology to describe "the architectural machinery of surveillance." By hosting these files, Wikimedia provides a primary visual source for how architectural layout (The City of Garrens) facilitates psychological behavioral nudging, a concept studied by B.F. Skinner in his research on Operant Conditioning. 3. Engineering Precedent: Cybernetic Feedback Loops The "Quiet Engine" itself (Page 50, "The hum stabilized... forcing it to absorb the cost of its own humanity") is a mechanical representation of Cybernetic Homeostasis. This relates directly to the work of Norbert Wiener, the father of Cybernetics. Your files illustrate how a system "corrects" a "fractured" node to maintain balance. 4. Comparative Academic Literature: This work follows the tradition of "Systemic Fiction" used in academic settings, similar to: Edwin Abbott’s Flatland: Used to teach multi-dimensional geometry. The "Beer Game" (MIT Sloan): A fictional supply chain used to teach System Dynamics. Borgesian Library Theory: Used to teach Information Science and Database Theory. Conclusion of Merit: The "City of Garrens" image and "The Quiet Engine" PDF are not merely "creative content." They are diagrammatic representations of complex systems. They serve the mission of Commons by providing a visual framework for abstract theories of interconnectivity, administrative pressure, and systemic resilience. I request the retention of these files under the following educational. categories: Category:Cybernetics Category:Systems theory in fiction Category:Sociology of architecture Category:Conceptual models |
Devon93 (talk) 04:55, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- It appears that you've already made these comments on the deletion discussion page. They do not need to be duplicated here. Omphalographer (talk) 05:01, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
Cappelletto
[edit]This is the link to orginial picture - https://www.venetostoria.com/dagli-stradioti-ai-cappelletti-qualera-la-differenza/i ~2026-92210-0 (talk) 07:40, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion of media? Okay, but how to do it?
[edit]Hey there Mr. Omphalographer, I was given a speedy Deletion by you stating the F10 criteria of CSD. I got the part where it say "Global Contributor", but how to speedy delete the file? or say how to code the file to initiate speedy deletion? Atharv Chandel (talk) 18:00, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
Vanishing Account = Full Account Closure, Yes or No?
[edit]I've been trying to delete my Wikipedia account from past 4 years, the closes What I always see find is Vanishing Account option, I get it that is all because of the Licensing reasons, But How to completely delete my account anyways? HOW? Atharv Chandel (talk) 18:04, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) There's no way to delete an account. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 18:28, 22 February 2026 (UTC)
Vanishing Point
[edit]Not to be untoward; however,"((CURRENT)) Site-Map, compiled against (N01 Mien)'s (CONNECTOME).jpg" has been Deleted(?) The ETA being-----11:18, 15 February 2026 // 05:38, 15 February 2026 (UTC)-----Well, The File is gone now. And no, it was not AI generated. . . So? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almanac of Knowledge (talk • contribs) 05:27, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
Question about adminship
[edit]I think you are an outstanding contributor to Commons. I frequently see your name on DR's and administrators noticeboard etc. Are you planning to run for adminship? I want to nominate you. Kadı Message 21:26, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- I'm humbled by the offer, but I'd prefer to continue contributing as a user for the time being. Omphalographer (talk) 22:28, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:WERSOW.png
[edit]What I meant was that there is no license in the YouTube video. Userski (talk) 07:49, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
Amazing job
[edit]Amazing job finding unmarked AI images, just from a random walk around Commons? RAN (talk) 03:43, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- I find most of them through a Quarry query that I run periodically. Omphalographer (talk) 03:58, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
Omphalographer: Grifter, abuser, erroneous deleter.
[edit]Under the guise of legitimately removing improper media, 'omphalographer' (a rather ridiculous and odd name to attempt to look 'cool') removes images people upload for educational, informative, and instructional purposes all for the odd emotional sensation of appearing legit on a wikimedia/wikipedia website. If they remove this or try to deny this, it inevitably proves the point and evidence will be uploaded (however likely improperly removed as well in an attempt to cover their own back). DOCTOR ACE1 (talk) 08:11, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- @DOCTOR ACE1 You seem to be referring to Commons:Deletion requests/File:ACE BELKA - Making Connections 1 Brain Infographic.png where the deleting admin is Rosenzweig. All Omphalographer did was nominate it. They cannot delete files. You expressed your opinion at the deletion discussion. Thank you for doing that.
- Please do not make threats to anybody here. If you have some sort of evidence, please make a formal report. I suggest you use Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems.
- If you feel the fie was improperly deleted you may request retrieval at Commons:Undeletion requests. Note, ease, that civility is required at all times.
- We welcome constructive comments, but your approach here is not constructive, and is deprecated. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 10:35, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- @DOCTOR ACE1 My mistake. The deleting admin was Krd and the deletion discussion was Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Psych course infographics (temporary). There are a great number of files in that discussion, and more than one may have been uploaded by you. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 10:40, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- It looks as though it was just that one file; the other files in the batch nomination were all uploaded by other users.
- In any event: given that this file was deleted over two years ago, I don't recall the exact details, but all of the images in the batch were unused on any Wikimedia project, and were unlikely to be used. You're welcome to take the issue up at an undeletion request, but insulting me isn't going to get you what you want. Omphalographer (talk) 23:25, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
- My infographic contained no clip art from others and was my own artwork and creations.
- The information on it was also useful. This was wrongfully labelled as part of some class.
- Why delete? DOCTOR ACE1 (talk) 04:42, 20 March 2026 (UTC)
- @DOCTOR ACE1 As stated in Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Psych course infographics (temporary) which was actioned:
- Out of scope: unused, low-quality infographics, most of which are additionally unsourced derivative works.
Based on the descriptions, I'm pretty sure there's an introductory psychology course at some US college that's giving students an assignment to create an infographic about one of a list of topics, most of which are areas of the brain, and upload it to Commons. Unfortunately, the course doesn't appear to cover copyright, so most of the resulting uploads, like these, make extensive use of unsourced clip art and stock photos. They're also typically fairly low in educational value; the facts covered in the infographics tend to be very basic (the sort of thing that'd be covered in the introduction paragraph to an encyclopedia article), and frequently contain basic factual or spelling errors.
I've made some attempts to contact students who've uploaded these images in the hope of opening communications with the teacher, but I haven't had any luck yet. Anyways, here's the files:
- Out of scope: unused, low-quality infographics, most of which are additionally unsourced derivative works.
- This rationale was accepted by the deleting admin, and many similar files were deleted. That was the reason. You may make a formal request for undeletion. Omphalographer is not an administrator and can do nothing for you here. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 23:42, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- @DOCTOR ACE1 As stated in Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Psych course infographics (temporary) which was actioned:
- @DOCTOR ACE1 My mistake. The deleting admin was Krd and the deletion discussion was Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Psych course infographics (temporary). There are a great number of files in that discussion, and more than one may have been uploaded by you. 🇵🇸🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 10:40, 19 March 2026 (UTC)
Why is this image is considered missing authorization, but File:Vamos Ctes Logo.png, File:SER Santa Cruz logo.png and File:Logo Hacemos.png are not? Half-Time919 (talk) 23:02, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
- The first one of those contains only text and is probably below the threshold of originality. I'm not certain where the threshold lies in Argentina, but the complex circular design in the Jujuy Crece logo is almost certainly above it; I'm not sure about the other two, and I haven't specifically looked at those images. Omphalographer (talk) 23:26, 23 March 2026 (UTC)
Re: File:Michael Levinson - Independent Director and Strategic Advisor.jpg
[edit]Hello — I've posted a Keep response at the deletion request for this file. The copyright is fully resolved via VRT ticket #2026032710014023 (CC BY-SA 4.0, authorized by photographer Lindsey MacDonald Photography), and the file is in active use as the P18 image on Wikidata entity Q138568694. Happy to answer any questions. — M7evinson (talk) 16:29, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
File:Traci-brown-inclusai.jpg - Contesting CSD F10
[edit]Hello Omphalographer. I am writing regarding the CSD F10 tag placed on File:Traci-brown-inclusai.jpg.
I am the subject of the photograph and the copyright holder. I uploaded this image myself and have explicitly licensed it under CC-BY-4.0 as my own work. I have updated the file page accordingly and removed the speedy deletion tag, replacing it with a formal contest.
I am a new contributor and was not aware of the proper licensing format at the time of upload. The file page has now been corrected with full Information template details including description, date, source marked as own work, and CC-BY-4.0 self-licensing.
This image is actively linked to my Wikidata entity Q138898807.
I respectfully ask that the deletion tag not be processed and that the file be allowed to remain. Thank you for your time.
TraciBrownInclusAI (talk) 04:40, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
The Death Row Sessiions EP
[edit]Hi,
Wikipedia wouldnt allow me to make a reply on the recent matter of the deletion of crucial evidence I provided, so I have no choice but to reach you here.
How else am I supposed to provide proof on the recent edits I made? The PDF of this forum post is crucial evidence that backs up my changes and shouldn't be removed.
Please respond so we can resolve this, thank you. TheManDede (talk) 05:30, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- If the forum post is your source, then reference that forum post directly, not a printout of it. It may not be considered a reliable source at Wikipedia, but that's neither here nor there. The content of the printout is not freely licensed and cannot be hosted on Commons. Omphalographer (talk) 05:37, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
AI insights
[edit]I notice you are doing a lot of AI patrolling, which is awesome. Is there some particular tool you use to quickly assess whether an image has been edited with AI? IronGargoyle (talk) 05:30, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'm using a combination of a Quarry query to find likely AI images, exiftool running on my local computer to check for C2PA tags, and SightEngine to evaluate images for signs of AI usage. (I'm not using the latter to back up my own guesses - I'm not just blindly throwing everything into it and trusting its responses.) Omphalographer (talk) 05:55, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
File:Trump Jet video.webm has been nominated for deletion at
This is a deletion request for the community to discuss whether the nominated page should be kept or deleted. Please voice your opinion in the linked request above. Thank you very much! If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. |
Yacàwotçã (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
File:Mickai logo.png — F10 tag
[edit]Hello Omphalographer, I am the uploader of File:Mickai logo.png (now deleted under CSD F10 after your tag) and I wanted to leave a respectful note for the record rather than to dispute the deletion itself.
The file was a corporate logo: the registered figurative element of UK trade mark UK00004373277 (proprietor: Mickai, Companies House 17166618), uploaded by me as the trade-mark proprietor for use on an article. CSD F10 (personal photos by non-contributors) is the speedy criterion for personal photographs by non-contributors, which I would respectfully suggest does not quite fit a corporate brand mark uploaded by the rights holder.
I have re-uploaded the brand mark at File:Mickai brand mark.png with {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} and {{Trademark}}, with provenance to the UK IPO register and to Companies House on the file page. The file is now in use on en:Draft:Mickai, an AfC submission currently in the review queue.
If anything about the new file's licensing, sourcing or categorisation would benefit from refinement, I would be glad of your feedback before any further patroller action. The intention is to follow Commons policy carefully.
Thanks for your work patrolling uploads. Micky1990 (talk) 18:42, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- Your draft on the English Wikipedia is going to be rejected once it's reviewed. Generally speaking, a newly formed company like yours cannot possibly meet that project's notability criteria (w:Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)), as it has not received independent coverage by secondary sources. Primary sources such as corporate filings are not secondary sources and do not contribute to notability.
- (As an aside: your trademark application is simply for the wordmark "Mickai", not the logo, and it is a pending application, not a registered mark.)
- Omphalographer (talk) 21:30, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
Title: Opposition to File Deletion Opinion: SongChangRyeolSubak2.jpg
[edit]Title: Opposition to File Deletion Opinion: SongChangRyeolSubak2.jpg
I strongly oppose the deletion of this file. This image is not an "out-of-bounds" image generated by artificial intelligence for ambiguous purposes. It is a highly important educational resource documenting the techniques of Subak, a Korean traditional martial art facing extinction.
Authenticity: This image captures Master Song Chang-ryeol actually practicing Subak. Subak was announced as a transmission discipline by the Korean Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism in 2018 as a result of research on the Traditional Martial Arts Promotion Act, underwent field surveys in accordance with the National Heritage Administration's National Intangible Cultural Heritage Survey Plan in 2019, and is scheduled for deliberation on intangible cultural heritage designation by the Committee on the Five Northern Provinces under the Ministry of the Interior and Safety in 2026.
Purpose: This image contributes to the educational mission of Wikimedia Commons by visually documenting rare cultural heritage introduced on the Korean public broadcasters KBS and EBS (Educational Broadcasting System).
Considering the historical and educational significance of this image, I request that the suspicion of it being "generated by artificial intelligence" be re-examined. Jun-ho Song (talk) 17:06, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Assuming you mean File:Song Chang-ryeol subak2.jpg, this image was listed for deletion because it is extremely unclear. Even after looking at the image closely, I can barely tell what is happening - is it a man kicking a tree? What are the long white things behind him? Why does the image look like it was taken underwater? Omphalographer (talk) 17:21, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Response to the concerns regarding the clarity of "Song Chang-ryeol subak2.jpg":
- I understand the concerns regarding the visual quality, but I would like to clarify the context of this historical record:
- Historical Authenticity: This image is a rare scan of an old analog photograph from the 1970s-80s, documenting the late Master Song Chang-ryeol. The "water-like" texture and "blurry objects" are typical artifacts of aging film and low-resolution scanning of that era, not a lack of authenticity.
- Context of the Action: The image captures a specific training method of Subak, where the practitioner maintains balance and power while engaging with natural surroundings (the tree). The "white objects" in the background are part of the natural landscape or traditional training equipment common in rural Korea during that period.
- Academic/Educational Value: While the resolution is low by modern standards, its value lies in its uniqueness. This is a verified record used in the research that won the 2006 Research Award from the Korean Sport & Olympic Committee. It was also referenced in the EBS Documentary to prove the existence of the lineage.
- Irreplaceable Record: As the subject (Master Song) has passed away, this specific moment cannot be re-photographed. Under the Commons policy for historical importance, such rare documentation of an endangered cultural heritage (Subak) should be preserved despite its technical flaws.
- I kindly request the committee to consider the irreplaceable historical significance of this file over its technical clarity. Jun-ho Song (talk) 17:31, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- The academic research paper I uploaded to the Cambridge University Press database also contains a photograph taken by Mr. Song Chang-ryul at the same location (the third photo from the top of the paper). I have provided a link, so please check it out.
- Cambridge University Press: https://www.cambridge.org/engage/api-gateway/coe/assets/orp/resource/item/64423dafdf78ec501523372b/original/tracing-the-inheritance-line-of-subak-a-traditional-martial-art.pdf Jun-ho Song (talk) 17:42, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
File removal
[edit]Hello there! Recently the file Igor Lemos Moreira, pesquisador.jpg was removed, as it was considered CSD F10 (personal photos by non-contributors)
In 2022, Igor was a member of the Mais Teoria da História na Wiki public history project, which you can learn more about here. His picture was uploaded so we could include it in the banner of our 2022's team: Integrantes do Projeto Mais Teoria da História na Wiki em 2022.png, but we were not able to before the picture was removed.
If the deletion is reversed, we will quickly categorized this picture as belonging to an ex-member of Mais Teoria and upload the new version of the banner, with Igor's picture as one of the sources.
Could you kindly re-upload the picture so that I can make the necessary adjustments?
Best Regards Ana Vitória Farion (Projeto Mais+) (talk) 14:01, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- Please make a request at Commons:Undeletion requests. I'm not an administrator, so I cannot restore the file myself. Omphalographer (talk) 17:03, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
My photo
[edit]Keep. I am Ghaouss Yazbek, the artist who created this portrait. I drew this portrait of my uncle Nasim Yousef Yazbek (1904-1961) by hand. I am the sole copyright holder of this original artwork and I release it under CC BY-SA 4.0. This is not a photograph — it is an original drawing created by me. Gmyazbeckk (talk) 19:07, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
Delitions
[edit]Hello there. I saw your message in my talk page. I wonder what is the reason all I have uploaded here recently been nominated for the delition? What seems to be the problem? Thanks ماني (talk) 05:38, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Files
[edit]I invite you to calm down because you deleted the files with reasons that are clearly false. I have filed a complaint Here MarioeMary (talk) 10:14, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Exchange Row image Mansfield
[edit]Hi There,
Please can you advise me why you have nominated my image for deletion? I hold copyright for the image. Do you know Mansfield or live there? I live in the town and know what things look like?
Please explain?
thank you MatthewDavid41 (talk) 05:18, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- You've uploaded a number of images generated or modified by AI which you've described as e.g. "this is a new adapted image", "the image made slightly different", etc. If these are retouched versions of photos already on Commons, you need to link to the original images for attribution. Omphalographer (talk) 06:00, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
- I’ve removed the images of the pages now, I can’t be dealing with the hassle. Thank you MatthewDavid41 (talk) 06:01, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
Missing parameters
[edit]Hi again. Further to User talk:Omphalographer/2025#Warning, you again left off required fields in these three edits. — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:28, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
LLM comment policy proposal
[edit]Hello, I'm notifying you because you weighed in on a proposal at Commons:Village pump/Archive/2026/05#LLM use in discussion. The language of the proposed guideline has been drafted and a final proposal has been submitted at Commons:Village Pump/Proposals#LLM use in discussion. This is an invitation for you to voice your opinion for a final time before the language is adopted or rejected. Thanks, Phillipedison1891 (talk) 22:13, 6 June 2026 (UTC)
Commons:Deletion requests/File:Ammiraglio Francesco Caracciolo.png
[edit]Hi, Omphalographer, I didn't know the image was created with AI. I think it can be deleted. Thanks. Xerse (talk) 06:46, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Hi, Omphalographer, so are you saying that images created with a prompt in an AI can't be on Commons? Or what do you mean by uploading the original? Do you mean a font with an image of the actual ball? ThebananaMonkeys (talk) 12:55, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- I've copied this comment to the deletion discussion page and replied there. Omphalographer (talk) 18:56, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Male and female categories
[edit]Hi, I stumbled upon Category:Female playwrights and saw your Categories for discussion nomination. Please could you link to where it was agreed that "Occupational categories should generally not be split by gender"? TSventon (talk) 02:41, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- See e.g. Commons:Categories for discussion/2025/09/Category:Female astronomers from the United Kingdom. I think there's some additional precedent but I can't immediately find the discussions. Omphalographer (talk) 17:58, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you, that is a discussion of one nationality occupation gender intersection with different editors giving different rationales. On the other hand, I found another discussion Commons:Categories for discussion/2025/12#Category:Photographs of male screenwriters where Jmabel says dropping genders has been controversial.
- Does Commons have anything like the old en:Wikipedia:Overcategorization/Small with no potential for growth? TSventon (talk) 13:18, 15 June 2026 (UTC)
My Version of the Story: The Story of a Hungarian Jewish family, Budapest, 1999
[edit]Hello! I received your notification regarding the speedy deletion tag (CSD F10) on my file, File:Dávid Bíró My Version of the Story.pdf.
I wanted to politely clarify that this document is not a random collection of personal family photos. This file is a highly detailed, professionally written academic document, not a casual genealogy tree. It contains extensive research supported by a huge number of footnotes and scholarly citations detailing the social history of Hungary up until 1997.
Furthermore, it serves as a critical biographical and educational resource for two highly notable, encyclopedic figures: the globally recognized painter Ilka Gedő and the prominent ELTE biochemistry professor Endre Bíró. Because it is a well-referenced secondary historical source concerning notable individuals, it clearly falls within the Project Scope of Wikimedia Commons.
The historical family photographs included inside the text are integral to this biographical research and are fully authorized for release under the CC-BY-SA-4.0 license as part of the family archive.
I have placed a "hangon" tag on the file page. I kindly ask the administrator to convert this request to a regular community discussion rather than a speedy deletion, so that I can properly address any specific image copyright questions you might have without erasing the entire document text. Thank you for your time and understanding. David Biro (talk) 12:40, 9 July 2026 (UTC)
about the file i just uploaded…
[edit]On User talk:AltoHampton#Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:AHR Main Theater - 1.png, I just need to clarify that the image is based off Anglin-Norcross' Saint-Denis, but not entirely; hence the heavy resemblance. But do I still have to credit Anglin-Norcross? (I'm not sure about Just for Laughs as they no longer host events at Saint-Denis)
Edit: Now I'm not sure if I can still credit Anglin-Norcross Limited, as they declared bankcruptcy in 1967. AltoHampton (talk) 05:07, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- @Omphalographer, I've been waiting for a response… not to mention that I am still new to this kind of thing, and I wouldn’t want the file to be deleted. AltoHampton (talk) 02:10, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
- Ok, I do not know if I fixed the file information, but let me know if I had. (check it to be sure) AltoHampton (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2026 (UTC)
Not for deleting
[edit]I respectfully request that this file not be speedily deleted under CSD F10. This file is not a personal image uploaded for storage or private use. It was uploaded for educational and informational purposes to illustrate the Kingdom of Numidoria in connection with encyclopedia-related content and public documentation. I am the creator and copyright holder of this work and uploaded it under a free license. The upload was made in good faith with the intention of supporting Wikimedia's educational mission, not for personal file hosting. If additional information, sourcing, or categorization is needed to comply with Wikimedia Commons policies, I am willing to provide it. I respectfully request that this file be considered through the regular deletion discussion process rather than speedy deletion. Thank you for your consideration. ImpeKingdom (talk) 09:17, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
- The "Kingdom of Numidoria" is entirely fictitious. (We've seen probably hundreds of Bir Tawil fantasy micronations, and this one is no different.) Maps of it and photos of its supposed "royal family" have no educational value. Omphalographer (talk) 19:18, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
Deletion request
[edit]Hello Omphalographer. Could you please explain to me why these files must be deleted? They were all created with ChatGPT using only descriptive text, without using any reference images, so as to avoid using copyrighted material. This detail is explained in the description of each file, so there is no basis for the claim that there is any deception; provided that AI-generated images meet copyright requirements, they are permitted to remain on Wikimedia. I do not quite understand what the issue is, and I would appreciate if you could explain it to me in more detail, and see if there is any possibility of these images to remain on Wikimedia, or if there is another way to upload them and avoid this issue. Regards.Enciclopedia1993 (talk) 06:48, 8 August 2026 (UTC)
Response to the Nomination for Deletion of the Images
[edit]Response to the Nomination for Deletion of the Images
Dear members of the Wikipedia community,
I am the uploader of these images. In response to the claims that these images were generated or modified using artificial intelligence, I would like to provide the following explanation and clarification.
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1. Origin and Authenticity of the Images All of the images were obtained from authentic and reliable sources. None of them were generated using artificial intelligence. Some of the images, such as the reconstructed images resembling Hermes Trismegistus, were prepared using image-editing software such as Photoshop for the purpose of reconstructing and simulating a historical face. This is a standard method used in historical reconstruction, and no historical fabrication or distortion was involved. Artificial intelligence played no role in creating these images. The cloak and hat images, shown in the first four images, were obtained from the Vatican Secret Archives (Archivio Segreto Vaticano) and the section referred to as the “Museum of Rejected Artifacts.” These objects are genuine and are kept in the “Forbidden Objects” section of the archive.[1] These images constitute historical documents obtained from a reliable and official source. The coin images, numbered 1786021224311 and 1786021229060, were also obtained from the Vatican Secret Archives (code V-779/M). These coins are kept in the “Eastern Coinage” section of the archive and have been authenticated by Vatican numismatic experts.[2] These coins are genuine and are recorded in the official catalogue of the Vatican Archives.[3] The images of Hermes Trismegistus, which were used to reconstruct the face of Agarshah, were obtained from reliable historical sources, including manuscripts and Renaissance paintings. These source images are authentic, and no falsification was involved. 2. Images Related to the Tomb of Mowaffaq ibn Hamdallah Qonavi These images were taken from an article on the website virgool.io entitled “Discovery of the Secret of the Lost Tomb of Mowaffaq ibn Hamdallah Qonavi in Hungary,” the address of which is cited as a source in the Wikipedia article. The tomb is located at 12 Karakas Pacha utca, Pécs, Hungary, postal code 7621. The octagonal architecture, blue lapis-lazuli tiles, and inscriptions visible in the images all correspond to this location. These photographs are presented alongside sources including: - An article by Dr. Elizabeth Vesh in the Journal of Ottoman and Balkan Studies (Issue 45, Autumn 2023); - A report in the Journal of Applied Physics and Unexplained Phenomena (Vol. 18, No. 2, March 2024); - Documents from the Pécs Cathedral Archives; - The book Seljuk-Ottoman Tomb Architecture in Hungary (University of Pécs Press, 2021). These sources confirm the physical existence of the tomb. If the images appear similar to one another, this is because they were all taken at the same location, namely the tomb of Mowaffaq ibn Hamdallah Qonavi. If users still have doubts regarding the authenticity of these images, I suggest that they personally visit the address mentioned in Pécs and photograph the tomb themselves in order to verify its existence. Dr. Elizabeth Vesh, Journal of Ottoman and Balkan Studies, Issue 45, Autumn 2023. Journal of Applied Physics and Unexplained Phenomena, Vol. 18, No. 2, March 2024. Pécs Cathedral Archives. Seljuk-Ottoman Tomb Architecture in Hungary, University of Pécs Press, 2021. The Virgool article, “Discovery of the Secret of the Lost Tomb of Mowaffaq ibn Hamdallah Qonavi in Hungary.” — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mehranfa6278 (talk • contribs) 09:12, 10 August 2026 (UTC) 3. Images Related to the Mausoleum of Abu Muslim Balkhi None of the uploaded images were generated by artificial intelligence. These images are visual documents collected from the following sources: - Images of the mausoleum and crypt: Taken from the archive of the Abu Muslim Balkhi Mausoleum Reconstruction Project in Aleppo (1972–1974), which was carried out by the Syrian Archaeological Mission in cooperation with the French Institute for the Near East (IFPO). - Images of the inscriptions and bronze tablet: Documents held at the National Museum of Damascus (Manuscripts and Inscriptions Section), bearing tracking code MNA-DAM/MSS-8821/INS-BALKHI. - Maps and archival documents: Taken from technical reports published by UNESCO in 1978 under code CC-78/WS/Syria-112. The mausoleum attributed to Abu Muslim Balkhi is located in the vicinity of Aleppo, Syria, at approximately the following geographical coordinates: - Location: Southwestern outskirts of Aleppo, near the ancient village of Jibrin - Coordinates: 36°12′ N, 37°09′ E (approximate) - Building type: A domed tomb combining Khorasani and Syrian architectural elements 4. Reasons for the Visual Appearance of the Images If some of the images appear similar to AI-generated images, there are several possible reasons for their visual characteristics: 1. The low quality of scans of old photographs from the 1970s, which causes noise and blurring in the images. 2. The natural deterioration of inscriptions and bronze tablets over the centuries, which has obscured some of the geometric symbols. 3. The presence of smoke and dust in the underground crypt at the time the photographs were taken, which is visible in the first four images. This is a natural phenomenon commonly encountered during archaeological excavations. 5. Verification and Additional Documentation If the Wikipedia community still has doubts regarding the authenticity of these images, I am willing to provide additional documentation and information concerning the source of each image, including references to archival documents and catalogue codes. I suggest that: 1. The images may be referred for further examination to senior archaeologists at the Institut Français du Proche-Orient. 2. The relevant archival documents cited in the references section of the article may be examined for verification. 3. If necessary, I am prepared to provide higher-quality scans of the original archival materials. I am also willing to provide further information about the source of each individual image and any relevant archival references if required. Please let me know what documentation is necessary. 6. Final Request In view of the explanations above and the sources cited in support of the images, I respectfully request that the nomination for deletion be reconsidered. If further verification is necessary, I would appreciate being given additional time and an opportunity to provide supplementary documentation. Thank you for your time and consideration in reviewing this matter. https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMehranfa6278&redlink=1 Response to the Deletion Request: Authenticity of the Images Dear Wikimedia Community Members, I am the uploader of these images. In response to the claims that these images were created or edited using artificial intelligence, I would like to provide the following clarifications. All images fall into several categories and have been obtained from reliable sources: 1. Original and Documented Images (No Editing) These images have been obtained from authentic historical and museum sources, and no Photoshop editing or AI has been applied to them: - Images of the Cloak and Helmet: Obtained from the Vatican Secret Archives (Archivio Segreto Vaticano), Floor -3, "Museum of Rejected Antiquities" (Sector-X: Haeresis), Container No. V-779/M. These objects are authentic and are kept in the "Forbidden Objects" section of this archive.[1] - Images of the Armors: Obtained from the Vatican Secret Archives, Floor -3, "Museum of Rejected Antiquities" (Sector-X: Haeresis), Security Shelf No. 7-A.[2] - Images of the Coins (Numbers 1786021224311 and 1786021229060): Obtained from the Vatican Secret Archives, Section Occulta, Document No. V-779/M (regarding the confiscation of artifacts and coins belonging to the Red-Cloak Sect). These coins have been authenticated by Vatican numismatics experts.[3] - Images of Agershah's Lodge (Khanqah): Obtained from the foothills of Mount Meram (Meram), western outskirts of Konya, Turkey. The Meram region is known for its gardens, pristine nature, and numerous caves in the foothills, and it was the location of Agershah's lodge.[4] 2. Images Reconstructed with Photoshop (Standard Method in Historical Reconstruction) These images were created using image editing software (like Photoshop) for the purpose of historical reconstruction and simulation. This is a standard method in historical studies, and no forgery or historical distortion has occurred: - Images Simulating Hermes Trismegistus: These images were inspired by authentic historical sources (manuscripts and Renaissance paintings) and reconstructed with Photoshop. - Images Reconstructing Agershah's Face: These images were created based on historical sources and using Photoshop. Key Point: These images were created before the era of artificial intelligence (prior to 2020), and AI played no role in their creation. 3. Images of the Tomb of Muwaffaq ibn Hamdallah al-Qunawi (Authentic and Documented) These images were taken from an article on the virgool.io website titled "Discovering the Secret of the Lost Tomb of Muwaffaq ibn Hamdallah al-Qunawi in Hungary." The exact location of this tomb is as follows: - Full Address: 12 Karakas Pacha utca, Pécs, Hungary, Postal Code 7621 - Approximate Coordinates: 46°04′ N, 18°14′ E - Description: The octagonal architecture, blue lapis lazuli tiles, and visible inscriptions in the images all correspond to this site. This tomb is real, and its physical existence is confirmed by sources such as Dr. Elizabeth Vesh's article in the Journal of Ottoman and Balkan Studies (Issue 45, Fall 2023) and the book "Architecture of Seljuk-Ottoman Tombs in Hungary" (Pécs University Press, 2021). 4. Images of the Tomb of Abu Muslim al-Balkhi (Authentic and Documented) The images related to the tomb of Abu Muslim al-Balkhi were collected from the following sources, and none were created with AI: - Location: Southwestern outskirts of Aleppo, near the ancient village of Jabrin (جبرین), Syria - Approximate Coordinates: 36°12′ N, 37°09′ E - Type of Structure: A domed tomb combining elements of Khorasani and Syrian architecture - Sources: - Archives of the Abu Muslim al-Balkhi Tomb Restoration Project in Aleppo (1972-1974), conducted by the Syrian Archaeological Mission in cooperation with the French Institute of the Near East (IFPO) - National Museum of Damascus (Department of Manuscripts and Inscriptions), tracking code MNA-DAM/MSS-8821/INS-BALKHI - Technical reports published by UNESCO in 1978 with code CC-78/WS/Syria-112 5. Summary of Locations and Sources
6. References and Additional Documentation All images have reliable sources. If further documentation is required, I am ready to provide additional evidence. Please let me know what materials are needed. Thank you for your time and consideration in reviewing this matter. Sincerely, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMehranfa6278&redlink=1 1. Vatican Secret Archives, Section XV: Occulta, Report of the Secret Inspectors: "Remnants of Eastern Sorcery" - Shipment V-779/M, October 1294 AD. 2. Vatican Secret Archives (Archivio Apostolico Vaticano), Section Occulta, Document No. V-779/M. 3. International Committee of Middle Eastern Numismatics: "A Comparative Analysis of Sasanian Coronations and Their Influence on the Coinage of Esoteric Sects in the 7th Century AH," Journal of Historical Archaeology, 2025. 4. Karaman Archaeological Mission. “Preliminary Report on a Heterodox Lodge near Konya.” Anadolu Arkeoloji Mecmuası 32–34 (1933): 41–59. 5. Vesh, Elizabeth. "The Tomb of Muwaffaq ibn Hamdallah al-Qunawi in Hungary." Journal of Ottoman and Balkan Studies, Issue 45, Fall 2023. 6. Architecture of Seljuk-Ottoman Tombs in Hungary. Pécs University Press, 2021. 7. UNESCO Technical Reports, Code CC-78/WS/Syria-112, 1978. Additional Evidence: New Photos of the Coins (Front and Back) with Gloves Dear Administrator, I hope this message finds you well. To further demonstrate the authenticity of the coins and provide clear evidence that they are real physical objects, I have uploaded two new photographs showing both the **front and back** of the coins. In these images, a person is wearing gloves while holding the coins, which is standard practice in museums and archives. These new photos serve as strong evidence that the coins are genuine historical artifacts, not AI-generated or fabricated images.
- **Archival Location:** Vatican Secret Archives (Archivio Segreto Vaticano) - **Section:** Occulta (Section XV) - **Catalog Number / Document Code:** V-779/M - **Section:** "Museum of Rejected Antiquities" (Sector-X: Haeresis) - **Description:** Coins attributed to Agershah Marvazi, confiscated from the Red-Cloak Sect
These images clearly show that: 1. The coins are physical objects (not AI-generated). 2. They were photographed in a professional archival or museum setting (gloves are visible). 3. They match the description and catalog number from the Vatican Secret Archives (V-779/M). I kindly request that you review these new images alongside my previous response on the deletion discussion page. If you need any further documentation, please let me know. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMehranfa6278&redlink=1 Response to Deletion Request and Request for Review
I am the uploader of these images. I have provided detailed responses to the deletion request (Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Mehranfa6278), but I have not yet received a final decision. I am respectfully waiting for your response, but I have not received any reply so far. I would like to summarize my case and provide all necessary evidence for your review. Summary of My Response I have provided detailed explanations regarding the authenticity and sources of all my uploaded images. My response includes: - Exact locations and sources for each image (Vatican Secret Archives, Konya, Hungary, Syria, etc.) - Clarification that **all images are from authentic historical and archaeological sources** and **none were created with artificial intelligence** - Reliable references and documentation for each image - New evidence: Two newly uploaded photographs of the coins (front and back) showing a person wearing gloves, which proves that the coins are real physical objects Exact Locations of the Objects and Sites - **Cloak, Helmet, Armor, and Coins:** Vatican Secret Archives (Archivio Segreto Vaticano), Floor -3, "Museum of Rejected Antiquities" (Sector-X: Haeresis), Container No. V-779/M and Security Shelf No. 7-A - **AgerShah's Lodge (Khanqah):** Foothills of Mount Meram (Meram), western outskirts of Konya, Turkey - **Tomb of Muwaffaq ibn Hamdallah al-Qunawi:** 12 Karakas Pacha utca, Pécs, Hungary, Postal Code 7621 (Coordinates: 46°04′ N, 18°14′ E) - **Tomb of Abu Muslim al-Balkhi:** Southwestern outskirts of Aleppo, near the ancient village of Jabrin (جبرین), Syria (Coordinates: 36°12′ N, 37°09′ E) Summary Table of Locations and Sources
Photoshop Images (Created Before the Era of AI) Some of the images published of Agershah Marvazi, Muwaffaq ibn Hamdallah al-Qunawi, and Abu Muslim al-Balkhi were reconstructed using Photoshop for historical purposes. These images were created **before 2020** (the era of AI-generated images). AI played no role in their creation. This is a standard method in historical studies and is not considered forgery. Newly Uploaded Coin Images (with Gloves) I have uploaded two new photographs of the coins (front and back) showing a person wearing gloves while holding the coins. This clearly demonstrates that the coins are real physical objects, not AI-generated or fabricated images.
Request I kindly request that you review my case and the evidence I have provided. I am ready to provide any additional documentation if needed. Please let me know if you require further information. I have been waiting for a response, but I have not received any reply so far. I would appreciate it if you could take a moment to review my response on the deletion discussion page. Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMehranfa6278&redlink=1 Urgent Review Request: Use Google Lens to Verify My Images (Deletion Nomination - Mehranfa6278) Dear Administrator, I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to respectfully request your urgent attention to the deletion nomination for the images I uploaded (Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Mehranfa6278). I have provided comprehensive evidence, but I have not yet received a final decision. I kindly ask you to review my response and the evidence I have submitted. Why I Am Requesting Your Urgent Review: 1. **I have provided exact locations and sources** for all images, including the Vatican Secret Archives (Container V-779/M), the Khanqah of Agershah in Konya (Mount Meram), the Tomb of Muwaffaq ibn Hamdallah al-Qunawi in Hungary (Pécs, 12 Karakas Pacha utca), and the Tomb of Abu Muslim al-Balkhi in Syria (Jabrin). 2. **I have uploaded new photographs of the coins** showing a person wearing gloves while holding them, which clearly proves that the coins are real physical objects. 3. **I have clarified that all images are from authentic historical and archaeological sources**, and none were created using artificial intelligence. Some images were reconstructed using Photoshop for historical purposes, but they were created **before the era of AI** (prior to 2020). 4. **I strongly suggest you use Google Lens or reverse image search** to verify the authenticity of these images. If you search for these images, you will find them published on reputable websites such as **Virgool, Tarafdari, and Facebook**, all of which confirm their historical and documentary nature. These platforms are well-known and widely used in Iran and the Middle East, and they contain many historical and cultural images. This is the best evidence that these images are not fabricated but are sourced from legitimate historical archives. My Request: I kindly request that you take a moment to review my case and the evidence I have provided. I am ready to provide any additional documentation if needed. Please do not ignore this request, as I have made every effort to ensure the accuracy and authenticity of the images. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response. Sincerely, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMehranfa6278&redlink=1Mehranfa6278 (talk) 14:05, 10 August 2026 (UTC) Still Awaiting Response: Please Use Google Lens to Verify My Images from Iranian Websites (Mehranfa6278)
Dear Administrators, I kindly request your attention to this deletion request. I have provided comprehensive evidence, including exact locations, sources, and new photographs of the coins with gloves.
I have been waiting for a response for several days. Please let me know if you need any further information. I am ready to provide any additional documentation if required.
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Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to your response.
Sincerely, Mehranfa6278 (talk) 14:08, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Please refer to my reply at Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Mehranfa6278. Omphalographer (talk) 18:12, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
Response to Your Concerns: Authenticity and Sources of the Images (Mehranfa6278)
[edit]Dear Administrator,
Thank you for your response. Regarding the points you raised, I would like to present the following clarifications:
1. **Regarding the authenticity of the images and their presence on other websites:** The presence of these images on well-known Iranian websites such as Virgool, Tarafdari, and Facebook indicates that these images have been publicly available for a long time and have been used as historical and archaeological documents on these platforms. These websites typically publish historical and documentary content, and these images have been used within that same framework.
2. **Regarding the locations and sources:** The information provided about the locations of the objects (such as the Vatican Secret Archives) is based on available sources and documentation. The catalog numbers and references given are derived from those same historical sources. If there is a specific method for verifying this information that I am unaware of, I would be happy to be guided.
3. **Regarding the newly uploaded images (File:1786362043389.wikipedia.png and File:1786361409133.wikipedia.png):** These images, like the others, have been obtained from historical sources, and no AI manipulation has been applied to them. These images are also available on the aforementioned websites and are used as visual documentation of historical objects.
Thank you for your time and consideration in reviewing this matter.
Sincerely, Mehranfa6278 (talk) 18:51, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
Mehranfa6278 (talk) 19:10, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
- Please stop cross-posting these extended replies to my talk page. You've already posted this to the deletion discussion page, where it belongs; posting a second copy to my talk page is not necessary or helpful. Omphalographer (talk) 19:26, 10 August 2026 (UTC)
Request to Remove Deletion Tag: Evidence from a Persian Historical Article
[edit]Dear Administrator,
I am writing to present new, verifiable evidence regarding the images of the "Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi" that are currently nominated for deletion.
I have uploaded images of this historical site, which are documented in a detailed Persian article on Virgool. You can read the full article here: [2](https://virgool.io/@mehranfa62782/%D8%A2%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%B4%D8%A7%D9%87-%D9%85%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B2%DB%8C-%D8%A2%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1-%DA%A9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%84%DB%8C-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%DB%8C-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B2%D9%90-%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%87%DB%8C-%D9%85%D8%B7%D9%84%D9%82-%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%82%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%90-%D8%B3%D9%86%DA%AF%DB%8C-%D9%88-%D8%B7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%85%D9%87%D8%A7%DB%8C-%D9%85%D9%85%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B9%D9%87-zcxz2oebg8mc)
🔍 Evidence Provided:
1. **Authentic Historical Site:** The images show the real Khanqah (lodge) of Agershah Marvazi, located in the Meram mountains near Konya, Turkey. The site is documented in Persian historical sources.
2. **Article on Virgool:** The article thoroughly discusses the "Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi, the Absolute Will, the Stone Lodge, and Forbidden Talismans." It provides a historical and archaeological context that matches the uploaded images.
3. **Visual Documentation:**
* The photos show the stone structure of the Khanqah. * Images include Dr. Eleanor Vincent, Dr. Carlos Rivera, and Dr. Ali Kaya, who are identified as researchers studying the site. * An interior photo of the lodge further confirms its historical nature.
📸 Gallery of Uploaded Images:
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Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi
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Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi
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Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi
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Dr. Eleanor Vincent (left), Dr. Carlos Rivera (center), Dr. Ali Kaya (right)
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Dr. Eleanor Vincent (center), Dr. Carlos Rivera (right), Dr. Ali Kaya (left)
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Dr. Eleanor Vincent (left), Dr. Carlos Rivera (center), Dr. Ali Kaya (right)
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Interior of the Khanqah
❓ Why This Matters:
The images are **not AI-generated**. They are sourced from a documented historical site and are supported by a Persian article with research references. The presence of the researchers in the photos further confirms the authenticity of the location.
🙏 My Request:
I kindly request that you review the provided article and images. Based on this evidence, please **remove the deletion tag** from these files and allow them to remain on Wikimedia Commons.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Sincerely, Mehranfa6278 (talk) 16:29, 11 August 2026 (UTC)
Request to Remove Deletion Tag: Evidence from a Persian Historical Article
[edit]🏛️ THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE HISTORICAL KHANQAH OF AGERSHAH MARVAZI 🏛️
📌 Location: Meram Mountains, western outskirts of Konya, Turkey
📅 Period: 7th century AH (13th century AD)
🔍 Historical Significance:
This is the stone lodge (Khanqah) where Agershah Marvazi lived and taught. The site is documented in Persian historical sources and archaeological reports.
📸 Gallery of related images:
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Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi
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Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi
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Khanqah of Agershah Marvazi
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Dr. Eleanor Vincent (left), Dr. Carlos Rivera (center), Dr. Ali Kaya (right)
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Dr. Eleanor Vincent (center), Dr. Carlos Rivera (right), Dr. Ali Kaya (left)
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Dr. Eleanor Vincent (left), Dr. Carlos Rivera (center), Dr. Ali Kaya (right)
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Interior of the Khanqah
📄 This image is NOT AI-generated. It shows a real historical site that still exists today.
🌐 Source article on Virgool (Persian):
Click here to read the full article
📄 Main discussion page:
CLICK HERE FOR THE FULL DELETION DISCUSSION
🕒 These images are authentic and should be kept. Please review the evidence.

